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Grief and Tears

Dreams dealing with sadness, depression, grief, crying, and tears. Sometimes a lot of tears--enough, in some dreams, to drown in. Interestingly, my dreams don't generally see that as a problem--drowning in grief a while is just another lesson.

For me, that is. If you're chronically depressed, I'd bet your dreams are more wary of letting you indulge your biochemical tendencies. The more I learn of other dreamers, the less I'm willing to generalize from myself. Dreamworlds vary profoundly, and some of that variance seems to be a response to biological uniqueness, not just culture and personality. One more reason to beware of one-size-fits-all dream dictionaries!

RELATED TOPICS: death - revenants (lost loved ones returning in dreams) - more dream moods: anger - fear - nightmares - guilt - embarrassment and blushing- envy - humor - play - sex - love - joy - See also the full INDEX OF SUBJECTS.

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AFTER HE DIED: by Jane O. Wayne, 1990?, a dream-poem fragment
After he died, I dreamed that the phone rang and when I said "Hello"...
AMERICAN WIDOW: by Alissa Torres; February 2002, a dream of her husband lost on 9/11
High-voltage traces of our lust and love flowed through our mattress nightly...
until one night when the power surged and overflowed. Then I felt you...
THE ANGEL: by William Blake; early 1790s; a gender-bending dream-poem
Blake dreams he's a young queen with an uneasy relationship to her guardian angel...
ANNABEL ROSE: by Emily Joy; 2006/12/14, a ghostbusting dream on... love? sex? what?
Edgar Allen Poe confronts his dead girlfriend, who wants to drag him into the grave with her...
CAUTION: HUNGRY GHOST, SEX TALK
AROUND LAKE ERIE AND ACROSS THE HUDSON: by Rachel Hadas; 1997?, a dream-poem.
My dead friend Charlie and his sister and I are driving around
Lake Erie. We know itís a dream and heís dead, and yet weíre joyous...
THE ARTIFACT: by Wayan; 1983/1/16. Narrative dream painting.
I was a lizard archeologist, a million years from now. What I dug up threatened my marriage...
ATLANTIS; c. 1993 by Mark Doty; six elegiac poems, three dream-based
In our marshlands, tides, birds, dogs come and go; but must our friends and lovers, too?
CAUTION: AIDS DEATHS
BARING THE BREAST: by Carla Young, 2010/2/27; dream painting and scene
I'm half-naked at an arty dinner party, talking to a man I really think I ought to recognize... who is he?
CAUTION: TOPLESS JUNGIAN
BAYSHORE AND CHARTER: by a Redwood City man; July 1951, a lifesaving predictive urge
I burst into tears for no reason and for 15 minutes begged my brother-in-law not to go, then said...
CAUTION: GRUESOME
BILLIE: by Billie's Mom; 1945/1/20, a psychic warning dream
My son Billie, his Navy uniform soaking wet, cried "Oh, Mom--it's so terrible!"
and shrank into a baby again as I held him...
CAUTION: EXPLOSION
BLOW 'EM UP!' and POKER FACES: by Wayan; 1992/7/2; two dreams on denial and sabotage.
Would the Revolutionaries in the Basement really blow up the Committee of Idealists upstairs?
CAUTION: MAD BOMBERS, OR AT LEAST GRUMPY ONES
BYRONíS DREAM: by Lord Byron; 1816, a dream of a love denied
An epic dream on the lifelong effects of unrequited love, compressed into seven stanzas...
A CAT AND HER GIRL: by Wayan; 1979/5/15, a deep little dream.
I'm a doctor in the future, trying to heal the neurolink between a girl and her cat...
CLOCKS STOP, CLOCKS START: 1953/10/3 and pre-1961; two family reports of psychokinesis
Indiana: Father's favorite clock, a cuckoo clock, stopped at exactly the time he died...
Florida: an old clock (silent for years) started ticking loudly at 10:20, the time of my husband's death the day before...
CLOWN POINTS: by Wayan; 2013/3/17, a nightmare about... philosophy?
Clowns have a point system like chess masters, and abuse apprentices to gain ahead,
just like capitalism--but I think this dream's about the suppression of magic...
CAUTION: CHILD CLOWN ABUSE
COEURL: by Wayan; 1980/2/26, a dream of surprise transcendence
I'm trapped in an alien hotel, my true love has gone radioactive, and the only way out is to turn into...
CAUTION: LESBIAN LUNACY
THE CORE ISSUE: by Wayan; 1992/6/25, a dream from multiple viewpoints
The tale of a gray heart trying to heal leads to unicorn-hostage drama in the Transamerica Pyramid...
CAUTION: SEX, MAFIA THREATS, VIOLENCE
CROCODILE KING: by Christina Rossetti; 1855, a mysterious dream-poem.
On the Euphrates, a monstrous crocodile eats all his kin. But when a winged ship appears, he feigns remorse...
"CRY, BABY!": by Wayan, 1985/8/17, dream-farce with a warning.
The only man in the Miss America Japanese Tea Ceremony Swimsuit Pageant, I learn a tearful lesson...
CAUTION: DYSFUNCTIONAL FLIRTING
CYCLES AGO: dream by Maud Gonne, poem by WB Yeats; late July 1891, a dream-poem
We were as if brother and sister of old in the desert land;
they sold us in slavery together before this life had begun...
DAD THE WORKAHOLIC: by Rick Veitch; pre-1995; an emotional blowout dream
In the paper factory where my dad worked all his life, I find him on
his deathbed. Even as he fades, he's still trying to please his bosses...
DEATH CHANTY: by E.M. Martin's friend; 1914/9/21, a psychic dream
An endless parade of drowned sailors sing a dirge. The dreamer woke in tears. Then the news arrived.
DEMON-SUMMONING IS JUST A MISDEMEANOUR: by Jo; 2017/7/26, a gender-bent diagnostic nightmare
I protect my friends from a demon, but the dream-guardians I summon terrify me...
THE DENUNCIATION: by Georges Perec; August 1972, a dream of war-trauma finally healing? Dream #124
1941. My dad and I are denounced to the SS. We're put in with monsters; I'm a snake or fish myself.
But the Nazis become a photo album, I go to a memorial, I cry, it's 1947, peace...
CAUTION: HOLOCAUST MEMORIES
DESCENDING THE MOUNTAIN TOWER: by Jenny Badger Sultan, 2004/7/6, a dream of grounding
The boy and I walk a spiral trail down the mountain to the caves of tears...
THE DOCTOR KILLS A TERN: by Wayan; 1988/9/24. A dream poem, Dreamverse #4
Dr Who kills his best friend, a huge white tern, on a whim. Furious, I demand a rewrite...
CAUTION: WANTON MURDER
DON'T DO THAT, MARION: by Marion; 1947, a two-way telepathic intervention?
I planned suicide. Then my friend 1000 miles away said in my ear "Don't do that, Marion." Next day an airmail...
SUICIDAL NARRATOR
DON'T TREAD ON ME: by Herdis Bollisurdottir; c.1040, a psychic dream of a ghost with an agenda
A ghost complains Herdis's grandma bothers her. Herdis wakes, tells Grandma, and they dig up the floor to find...
DON'T YOU HEAR THAT WHISTLE BLOWIN...: by Denise Levertov; 1974/9/6; a dream poem
4 AM. A train wakes us all. We watch it pass, thinking of lost friends. And then I wake again to find...
THE DREAM: by John Hollander; spring 1974; a painful dream-poem
I find my lover sharing our secret joke with another. But I already knew
I'd lost her! Why'd my dream salt the wound?
DREAMKU, APRIL 2007: by Roswila; various dates up to April 2007; 30 dream-poems--mostly haiku
Dream haiku laid out like a calendar. Roswila's favorite is the pirate, but mine is the were-salamander...
DREAMS IN WAR TIME: by Amy Lowell; c. 1917, a chain of seven small dream-poems
Terse dreamlets quietly catch World War I's effect. Faith died in the trenches...
EDDY DROPPED: by Frances's sister; pre-1961, a laughed-at warning nightmare
My brother-in-law Eddy was out hunting with a boy whose shotgun had its safety off. Suddenly Eddy...
FALSE BOTTOM: by Edith Wharton; October 1913, a summing-up nightmare.
Demons open a trunk full of the horrors I've faced this year, and lay them out, mocking me... but is that all?
FAREWELL: by Georges Perec; January 1969, a dream prose-poem of loss foreseen. Dream #6
Dream of a breakup I see coming but can't prevent, and the devastation it works on my lover...
THE FEARFUL INSECT by Nancy Price; 1948, an episodic circular nightmare unified by a leitmotif
A bug with a horse-skull face reappears all through this nightmare of betrayal. I only know I feared it...
FIGURE DRAWING: DAPPLED: by Wayan; 2000/11/29, pastel digitally tweaked.
A pensive leonine woman resting on a tilted rock. A life drawing with certain imaginary spots.
CAUTION: MILD NUDITY
A FINAL GOODBYE: by Justin Hall; dreamed summer 2001, drawn 2003; comic of a lucid dream on closure.
I found myself in a cafe in Amsterdam--or was it Sevilla?--with Kevin, who I knew was dead...
CAUTION: GRIEF
F.I.P: by Dr A (c.1947), a Cambridge man (1960?), a London girl (c.1916) and a Midlands mum (July 1958)
Examples of inexplicable moods that appear (after the fact) to be reactions to future events...
FREAKY DREAM, or, HEART IN MY STOMACH: by Ratiries Steelclaw; c. 2004/3/30, a dream comic
I felt like my heart was in my stomach. My friend Lyx opened me up and confirmed it was. She scolded me for eating it...
CAUTION: URP
FREUD WAS SOME WRONG ABOUT DREAMS, and THE AUTUMN BREEZE: by John Berryman; ca. 1967.
After a year of intense dreamwork, Berryman rejects Freud and accepts open-ended dreaming, and writes Dream Songs...
CAUTION: SIXTIES STONER REBELLING AGAINST SPELLING... and grammar... and punctuation...
GOLD EATER: by Wayan; 560K, 9-page comic of a 1993/1/15 dream.
I'm an orphan shapeshifter enslaved by a gold-eating monster. But I meet a cat-girl with a hammer...
CAUTION: BAD FOSTER-DAD; CAPITALIST MONSTER; VIOLENCE (TO VENDING MACHINES)
THE GOLDENE BOOK OF VENUS: by Anna Kingsford; 1881/3/15-16, a poem read in two dreams
Poem from a book on how love can save lives & souls, read in two dreams of a Renaissance astrologer's library...
A GOTHIC TALE: by Roswila; 2000/4/7, a dream-poem
Nightwalkers lured our empath away. We come to their castle to rescue her. Pregnant with magic, will she come or stay?
GREEN SCREEN ANGEL: by Wayan, 2018/10/18, a bizarre predictive dream
A reporter interviews the guardian angel of my dead sister Jill in front of a
green screen. He's dissolving in grief--luminous holes show through...
GRIEF KIVA: by Wayan; 1980/2/16, a lucid psychic dream.
In a Hopi underworld, I find even lucid dreaming can't cure guilt and grief over losses yet to come...
GROUND ZERO: by Al Davison; 2001/9/9, a predictive dream-comic.
Two days before 9/11, I dream I'm a child at ground zero, mourning the devastation--and witnessing rebirth.
GUDRUN'S FOUR HUSBANDS: by Gudrun Osvifursdottir; summer 988,
Four childhood dreams predicting Gudrun's life; plus a dream by her husband Thorkell Eyjolfson, spring 1026.
Gudrun dreams of four treasures: a hood, a bracelet, a ring, a jeweled helm. Her cousin sees them as four marriages...
HOW TO SURVIVE NUCLEAR WAR: by Maxine Kumin; early 1980s, a dream poem.
In Japan, sick in bed, reading a book on radiation sickness, I dream of a restorative ritual for trees...
CAUTION: GRUESOME
I WANT MY INHERITANCE: by Wayan; 1989/12/18, a dream on family brainwashing.
My family calls me a blonde bimbo and won't give me my inheritance, so I take drastic steps...
CAUTION: MORAL HAIRSPLITTING
I WAS A SEX SLAVE: by Wayan; 1994/11/20, a dream on isolation
I'm a slave dancer. I run for it, and make it over the border. But my owner comes looking for me...
CAUTION: NUDITY, SLAVE SOCIETY
THE INCEST DREAM: by Maxine Kumin; 1979? a dream-poem
As my brother was dying, I had a series of vivid premonitory dreams about him. But I was unprepared for...
JAKE'S MAGIC CARPET; 2006/12/12 by Zhea Zarecor; a reconciliation dream that grew to something more
Not long after Jake died, I dreamed he took me on a magic carpet ride. Since then, I've been flying...
JAMES MERRILL REMEMBERED: by Rachel Hadas; around May 1995; two dream-poems
Soon after my friend and mentor James Merrill died, I had recurring, elusive dreams about him...
JASON: by MariNaomi; 1989, a romantic-warning nightmare
The Mummy chases me, then unwraps his bandages to show the mutilated face of my boyfriend.
"I'm getting out of jail!" he says. Then the phone wakes me. My boyfriend. He says "I'm getting out of..."
CAUTION: CODEPENDENCE, MUTILATION, GUILT AND GRIEF
JESSE'S DEATH: drawn by Joey Epstein from her father-in-law's dream; 1983/7/31, an apparent psychic dream
As Joey's infant daughter Jesse died, her father-in-law woke up 500 miles away and announced, "The baby..."
KARMA AND HER SISTERS: by Emily Joy; 2006/12/27, a happy sexy flying dream that turned tragic.
One boring lonely day, I meet a cute teenage bunny who wants to play with me! But half an hour laterÖ
CAUTION: LANGUAGE, INTERSPECIES FLIRTING, AND LOSS
KINDERTOTENLIEDER: by Oliver Sacks; 1974, a musical dream
I dream of German dirges I don't know. I hum them for a friend, who shocks me by asking
"Have you abandoned any children, or burned a manuscript?" Right on both counts...
THE LADY BATHES IN GRIEF: by Wayan; 1983/5/31, a long-haul psychic dream.
Why'd a spirit-woman come to our reservation to mourn a drowned guy? Her mirrors & candles tell us...
THE LEMON SEA: by Wayan; 1982/2/22, a dream warning.
I wake up as someone else. I go through her working day, till Captain Kirk comes to take me to...
LION RIDER: by Jo Equinity; c. 2000?, an anticipatory consoling dream
I dreamed I was riding a lion. A few days later, when my husband suddenly left me, I recalled the dream and...
LONG ROAD TO HEAVEN: by Edwin Muir; 1920, an epic hypnogogic shamanic initiation
Creatures in the primal sea touch my third eye, dragons cry their eyes out, I fight the Sphinx, and arrive at last in...
LOST ANT: by William Blake; late 1780s; a dream-poem, one of his Songs of Innocence
A glowworm and nightwatch beetle help out a lost crying ant-woman. It's not always a bug-eat-bug world...
LOVE IS REAL, REAL IS LOVE, BUT...: by Wayan; 1993/5/30, a musical mystery dream.
Singing a Lennon love song on a planet of giant women provokes first wonder, then disbelief. Why?
LUNCH WITH THE STARS: by Wayan; 1981/2/2, a dream on beliefs.
I'm in an animal dance troupe, but wake to find I'm alone. For consolation, I eat at The Terrace, and meet...
MIDNIGHT'S CHILDREN: by Wayan; 1992/9/5-6, a diagnostic dream.
I'm in a tribe of post-Crash kids with psychic powers, trying to keep nukes from rising again...
CAUTION: VIOLENCE TOWARD CHILDREN
A MISCARRIED LIFE: by Wayan; 1981/2/12, a short dreamfable.
I'm Hattie, a pregnant girl on a Lewis and Clark expedition. I miscarry, and they tell me...
MUNCH'S BLUFF: by Wayan; 11x14", 1983. Nondream erasable crayon
A sea-scape somewhat in the style of Edvard Munch: midnight-sun madness with a hint of suicide...
MURDERS IN HAYWARD: by Anonymous #5; c.2002 or 2003, a psychic nightmare.
I dream I live in Hayward, California. One day my family's murdered. Years later I find that dream-street is real...
MUSIC HEALS SMOG: by Wayan; 1994/4/28, a career-advice dream
The smog of Portland is so bad it hides the dream-towers! Only one thing will heal it: making music...
MY LIPS ARE SEALED: by Wayan, 1989/6/3, a moody, psychic, epic, two-part dream.
I'm a Romantic poet who defeats the curse of the fountain, to marry; but when our daughter's grown,
a new curse strikes me mute, paralyzed. And I mistake this for old age!
Then, in real life, my dad wakes up from a nap paralyzed...
MYRNA, LOOK AHEAD: by Myrna, drawn by her daughter Joey Epstein; before 1988, a dream of ghost advice
After Myrnaís husband died, one night she felt him behind her in bed, and he whispered...
NIGHTMARE STUDIO: by Gary Panter, 2003, a 5-page comic of his lonely surreal dream world
Rather than a dream narrative, this is a tour through Gary's common dreamscapes--
forgotten places, empty streets. Or ones you wish were empty...
OFF DOVER: by Wayan; 2010/9/30, a dream-based mini-sestina (poetic experiment)
I'm biking over the English Channel. So mild & easy after the Greenland-to-New-York run...
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS by Anonymous #35; summer 1934, a psychic dream
The engine pinned a young man under it. A crowd gathered, but no one saw the girl on the far side of the tracks...
PAPA: by Hélène Cixous; 2006/5/15; a revenant dream
I'm in my papa's waiting room. I beg him to take a break from his patients now that he's dead, and walk with me...
THE PLACE OF SPROUTING CORN: by Jenny Badger Sultan; 1989/1/10 & 1989/6/28, twin initiatory dreams.
I'm shown corn plants growing from skulls, and it seems like I must plant some skull-corn myself...
PLUTO THAWS: by Wayan; 1973/1/19, a mythic dream set on Pluto.
A quarrel between psychic adepts heats up to a war, thawing Pluto.What'll the ice-tribes wish for?
PRAY: by Wayan; 1992? Digital nondream image--childhood memory?.
I don't know what this scene is about--but it's not a dream. A stage, I think. Something from childhood.
CAUTION: BARE BEAR
PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD: by Wayan; 2009/10/19, an illustrated dream poem; Dreamverse #61
I get stuck with a one-year mandatory gig as President of the
World, just as Saudi Arabia collapses, and fools rush in...
PUFF TIDE: by Wayan; 1993/5/1, a nightmare on indulging rage and tears; 8 illus.
I'm swept off sea-rocks, as my scaly guardian watches calmly--letting me drown in the tears I shed...
CAUTION: DROWNING
PULLED UNDER: by Wayan; 1976/4/15, a nightmare.
One by one, we're pulled under the water, the earth... eaten. That's the fate of all flesh. And we're flesh.
CAUTION: HORROR
RADIATE SORROW: by Wayan; 1980s, a daydream poem.
The rest of us heavenly bodies have each other, but from the Sun's viewpoint, we're just rubble. Alone...
THE RAPTURE OF MY DARK DREAM: by Edna St Vincent Millay; 1945?, a nightmare in free verse
Millay dreams her loverís attacked in the street, and wakes to realize itís already happened; heís lost.
RECONCILIATION: by Martha Sherwood; 2003/6/19, a dream-parable
Even after the Resurrection, a mother and daughter still have issues to clean up...
ROSEMARY AND FRANCES: by Rosemary; 1936/6/5, a predictive mood & flash saves one of two sisters
Gloom clung to me & I skipped the dance. I begged Frances to ride in a safe car, but coming home...
SASQUATCH FOOTPRINT: by Roswila; May 1996, a dream-poem on the loss of wildness
I meet a female Bigfoot, who, to my surprise, quietly speaks my tongue.
She's mourning the death of her infant son...
SCHNEIDER TROPHY CRASH: by J. Lloyd-Owens; c. 1931/8/1, an overwhelming premonition
A newsreel showed a flier for the Schneider Trophy Air Race. I felt a violent shock and said "He's going to die..."
SEX FIRST, THEN SADNESS: by Wayan; 1998/12/12, an advisory dream.
At a party, a sad girl attracts me. But to reach her, I must have an affair with a sexy, frustrated writer...
SHARPSHOT: by Wayan; 1977/4/3, a surreal poem of a warning nightmare
When I was being battered, I dreamed where it would end
if I didn't leave: dead wife, shot husband...
CAUTION: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
STAGE FAILURE: by Dana Hughes, art by Jesse Reklaw; pre-2000; a dream of surrender
I'm on stage. I have to sing. They just stare. I try dancing. Stony silence. At last,
a second me leads me offstage, saying "You can only fail so many times"...
STAY ON THE SIDEWALK: by a Utah boy, pre-1961, a flawed warning nightmare
He said "Oh, Mom, I had a terrible dream. A car ran me down."
I said we could not live by dreams or we live a life of horror...
THE STROKE: by Lesa; 2005/6/1, a predictive dream
A vivid nightmare that turned out a week later to be devastatingly true ...
TAROT: IN TEARS (5 of cups): by Wayan; Tarot card, 3x5", summer 1978.
Floating in tears, have you noticed the other cups behind you, unspilled?
THEY'RE HANGING THE POLITICAL TRAITOR: by Jack Kerouac, late Sept. 1953, a sad dad dream
They're hanging the political traitor in my closet. I stand horrified.
The old man's resigned--no complaint. It's my father, I now realize...
TORNADO AND STARSHOWER: by Dream Junkee; 2008/8/15, a nightmare that goes lucid
A killer tornado traps us in the cellar. I bite my finger. It's boneless--I'm dreaming! I summon...
THE TRAIN: by John Hollander; spring 1974; a poem based on a shared dream
A couple slips in and out of sleep, dreams, one another's bodies and dreamworlds, trying to connect...
CAUTION: FREUDIAN SYMBOLISM, LITERATE WRITING
TRANSPERSONAL PUPPIES by a dog breeder; pre-1961, a cledonic dream of a ghost
The stranger seemed to know me. He said "Tell her about the little dogs, it will comfort her." Two weeks later...
TRUSTING FOXES: by Wayan; 1997/8/20, 2-page comic of a psychic dream.
Evicted. Lawsuit. I dream a lawyer sends me a letter full of fox-girls! In East Asia, foxes
mean trouble, but these are friendly--good news is coming! I wake to find we've won a home...
THE TYRANT'S WIFE: by Wayan; 1980/6/9, a dreamtale.
In our plot to kill the Tyrant, we used his wife. Or... did she use us? She goes mad, but--she's HAPPY...
THE WEEPING BRAIN: by Wayan; 2010/12/5; an anti-workaholic nightmare poem
My sister just bought a biocomputer: an enslaved human brain in a box of weeping skin...
WHO ATE MY LETTUCE?: by Wayan; 1983/1/13, a short dreamfable.
An invisible monster is eating my lettuce patch.
It casts a huge blurry shadow, leaves footprints, but...
A WIFE OR A GHOST: by Justin Masi; 2014? a surreal dream-painting-prose-poem on grief
My sister's fiancé Billy died a year ago. I didn't realize how deep the grief ran till I dreamed...
THE WILD HUNT: by Carl Jung; Sept. 1922, a clairvoyant dream hinting what death is
A huge wolfhound tore past me. My blood froze. The Wild Hunt was carrying off a soul...
WINDOW IN THE SKY: by Emily Joy; 2006/10/15, an epic, flying, apocalyptic dream
When my friends and I learn to fly, all of Middle Earth turns against us!
Fleeing from Saruman's army, I discover the backstage truth about our world...
CAUTION: VIOLENCE, DOOM, PHYSICS! YODA IN THE TUB!
WITNESS: by Patagia, 2006/2/16, a poem of a redemptive nightmare
A woman I had wronged set her pit bull on me! Hand in its jaws, I gave in, and we both began crying...
ZEMMYO: by Myoe Shonin; c.1221/4/20, a spiritual Pygmalion dream.
A doll sent from China breaks into tears over her exile here in Japan. I reassure her and she becomes real...


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